RX Oil Catch Can 2010 Camaro V6 3.6L

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:09 am
Hey Travis, you would be amazed at how many people who are not online are not aware of the catch can. When I start explaining what that little can thing is and does, guys are dumbfounded. Would you care to send any bagstuffer info to me to put in our goodybags for our upcoming shows? The Inland Northwest Camaro Club show is August 12, we're putting together 150 bags for giveaways. If you have anything you want to send to raffle, or if you want to sponsor a class, we'd love to have you on board with us.
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I can go one further and offer a free catchcan system as a drawing if you like.....just do it yourself and let me know the winner to send it to.

Also, on our website under "tracy's tips" are some explanations for you ti feel free to copy and print as stuffers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:36 pm
Bat Car wrote:I can go one further and offer a free catchcan system as a drawing if you like.....just do it yourself and let me know the winner to send it to.

Also, on our website under "tracy's tips" are some explanations for you ti feel free to copy and print as stuffers.

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Another GREAT offer from a FANTASTIC sponsor and person. Thanks for always helping us out Tracy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:35 pm
Here is a post from a GM egineer on this subject:




Re: How to Clean The PCV tube on 05' CTS 3.6



I usually lurk in the background, but this is getting out of hand. SC2150 has the up-most knowledge on this matter and I have personally been to his shop and inspected engines both with and without catch cans. It is in fact a fact that without fuel spraying on the valve stems that they will in fact lose efficiency and need cleaning, this is published by GM.


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2011 Cadillac CTS | CTS VIN D Service Manual | Document ID: 2863222
#PIP5029: Engine Misfires Due To Major Carbon Deposits On The Intake And/Or Exhaust Valves - (May 29, 2012)
Subject: Engine Misfires Due To Major Carbon Deposits On The Intake And/Or Exhaust Valves

Models: 2008 - 2012 Cadillac CTS, STS
2008 - 2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS
2007 - 2010 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2007 - 2010 Saturn Sky Redline
2009 - 2012 Buick Enclave
2009 - 2012 Buick Lacrosse
2009 - 2012 Chevrolet Traverse
2009 - 2012 GMC Acadia
2009 Saturn Outlook
2010 - 2012 Cadillac SRX
2010 - 2012 Chevrolet Camaro, Equinox
2010 - 2012 GMC Terrain
With any of the Following Direct Injected Gasoline Engines:
2.0 (RPO LNF)
2.4L (RPO LAF, LEA, or LUK)
2.8L (RPO LAU)
3.0L (RPO LF1)
3.6L (RPO LFX or LLT)

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:

Some customers may complain of a MIL and engine misfire. In some cases, the misfire may be more apparent on a cold start, may count on a single cylinder or several cylinders, and may or may not be felt by the driver. Upon inspection, the technician will find one or more misfire codes (DTC P0300-P0306) stored in the ECM and SI diagnosis may or may not isolate the cause of the misfire depending on whether the intake/exhaust valves are sticking at the time of the diagnosis.

This may be the result of major carbon build up on the intake and/or exhaust valves as shown below so the misfires should not have appeared until the engine has accumulated around 5,000 miles or more.





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Recommendation/Instructions:

If this concern is encountered, perform SI diagnosis. If SI diagnosis isolates a valve sealing concern and/or eliminates everything else external to the engine, decarbon the engine with Upper Engine and Fuel Injector Cleaner by following the guidelines below:

Important Extreme care must be taken not to hydrolock the engine when inducing the cleaner, especially if it is induced without Kent Moore Tool # J-35800-A. If too much cleaner is induced at too low of a RPM, or if you force the engine to stall by inducing too much cleaner at once, the engine may hydrolock and bend a connecting rod(s).
1. In a well-ventilated area with the engine at operating temperature, slowly/carefully induce a bottle of GM Upper Engine and Fuel Injection Cleaner into the engine with RPM off of idle enough to prevent it from stalling (typically around 2,000 RPM or so). Depending on the engine configuration, induce the cleaner through the throttle body or an engine vacuum hose/pipe. For best results, it is suggested to induce the cleaner with Kent Moore Tool # J-35800-A (shown below).
2. Turn the engine off after inducing the cleaner and allow the cleaner to soak with the engine off for 2.5 to 3 hours (Do not let cleaner soak for more than 3 hours as remaining deposits may start to harden back up again).
3. Add a bottle of GM Fuel System Treatment Plus to the fuel tank and fill the vehicle with one of the Top Tier gasolines listed at http://www.toptiergas.com and/or in the latest version of 04-06-04-047 (USA) or 05-06-04-022 (Canada). See Bulletin 05-00-89-078 for more details on GM Fuel System Treatment Plus.
4. Test drive the vehicle extensively to circulate the GM Fuel System Treatment Plus, which will help to eliminate/reduce any remaining intake valve deposits.
5. Re-evaluate the concern to determine if it is repaired or improved at all. If the concern is improved but not repaired, it may be necessary to perform the above decarboning process a 2nd time.



6. To complete the repairs, advise the customer to only use one of the Top Tier Gasolines listed at http://www.toptiergas.com and/or in the latest version of 04-06-04-047 (USA) or 05-06-04-022 (Canada) to minimize future deposits. It can also be recommended to add a bottle of GM Fuel System Treatment Plus at every oil change as mentioned in the latest version of 04-06-04-051.
Kent Moore Tool # J-35800-A
Upper Engine and Fuel Injector Cleaner

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.


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By utilizing the catch can you will reduce to eliminate most of the deposits that build up on the valve stems, I have had one on my engine now for quite a while and using a bore light I have seen very little to no build up, and especially I have not had to have this costly cleaning done. If I had not had this catch can I would have spent over twice the cost for upper induction cleanings. I am in the Industry and see the added benefit of using this system.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:14 pm
GREAT info, thank - you for posting this for us. I am so tired of all the negative comments I read from others about this subject. FIne if you don't want one then don't put one in. End of story.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:32 am
I agree with Mike, GREAT info! Thanks for posting. Hopefully this will help shed the light to more of the non believers and nay sayers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:34 am
Here are the pictures from those bulletins:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:50 am
That procedure is something I've done on older cars, (especially those leaking or burning oil) for years. It seems to work really well.

I'll reiterate the bulletin's caution on not flooding the engine though, it's not hard to do. I noticed the LLT won't take as much flow of the chemical as my 2000 bravada, for instance, and nearly choked it up the first time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:55 am
Good advice. Hydrolock is not pretty.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:57 am
man that engine is filthy!
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